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  • #16099
    fazilqq

    Lvl 78 Europe
    Polar Bear
    Posts: 26

    Anyone can explain me how exactly top skill is determined? Guide doesn’t give exact information and i find wiki to be confusing. How exactly blue stars increase the exp required for a skill to become top?

    #16101
    DokMaxStapin

    Lvl 131 SEAsia
    Wolf
    Posts: 23

    Not determined by level but by total exp earned and additional 20k exp per blue star of skill for it to be the top skill.
    Well at least from what I understood from wiki 😛

    #16105
    Seryn

    Lvl 100 USEast2
    Skeleton
    Posts: 166

    The wiki definitely needs work, I found that section hard to explain well.

    Basically there are two components. The base component increases by 11.1% per blue star, and then there’s an added 20K per blue star. So you end up with something like this.

    Hopefully I used dark enough colors. The blue part is variable depending on how much xp you have, and the red part is constant.

    So let’s say you have to beat a skill with 250K xp and 5 blue stars, with a skill that has 7 blue stars. So you take 250K, subtract 100K (the part that’s constant), multiply by 1.11 twice (going up from 5 stars to 7), and add 140K (the new constant).

    [(250,000 – 100,000)*(1.11^2)] + 140,000
    [(150,000)*(1.2321)] + 140,000
    [184,815] + 140,000
    324,815

    In another example take the same skill with 250K xp and 5 blue stars, and this time you want to beat it with a skill with only 3 blue stars. So you take 250K, subtract 100K (the part that’s constant), divide by 1.11 twice (going down to 3 stars from 5), and add 60K (the new constant).

    [(250,000 – 100,000)/(1.11^2)] + 60,000
    [(150,000)/(1.2321)] + 60,000
    [121,743] + 60,000
    181,743

    I hope this helps a bit more than the wiki for now.

    #16111
    Akanthor

    Lvl 17 SEAsia
    Wolf
    Posts: 18

    Seeing this math make my head and eye hurt. More than playing 8bit game. Ill just train it till top skill. Cya

    #16113
    fazilqq

    Lvl 78 Europe
    Polar Bear
    Posts: 26

    Thanks a lot for explaining, Seryn. I think I’ll understand this thing if I spent some hours 🙂 Would you happen to know about the exp required for level 80 to 90 and level 90 to 100 too? That chart in wiki is incomplete

    #16114
    Focus

    Lvl 108 USWest2
    Wolf
    Posts: 24

    Love the breakdown here Seryn, the chart really lays things out nicely! To someone unfamiliar with carning though, I could see where it’s really difficult to know where and how to plug in their own numbers to an example…

    I use a lot more free-form methods for knowing when something will hit top skill by using references to other skills. For example:

    A skill with:
    0 blues from level 0 -> 30
    1 blue from level 10 -> 33.35
    2 blues from level 20 -> 35.7
    3 blues from level 30 -> 41.1
    4 blues from level 40 -> 49.1

    All share the same eligibility to be top skill within a few experience points.

    Obviously… this is all through trial and error and requires me to be constantly paying attention to when the top skill actually rolls over, but using this “progression of scaling” gives me at least a rough ballpark of what i can expect the next requirements to be.

    At my stage of things, I’ve been using much higher leveled base skills:

    0 blues from level 0 -> 47.0
    1 blue from level 10 -> 50.1
    2 blues from level 20 -> 54.4
    3 blues from level 30 -> 58.3
    4 blues from level 40 -> 62.6
    5 blues from level 50 -> 68.1
    6 blues from level 60 -> 74.3
    7 blues from level 70 -> 81.7
    8 blues from level 80 -> 89.8
    9 blues from level 90 -> 99.1

    If for some reason I wanted to carn a more time consuming skill to level like digging, I might be tempted to bring all of those levels down a little so that I could have an easier time getting it to top skill.

    Hope this helps!

    #16117
    xwindux

    Lvl 142 SEAsia
    Penguin
    Posts: 2

    Thanks seryn, but i still confuse
    Lets take example
    I have to beat skill cooking 0 blue star with 83,800 exp (lvl 30) and i have 1 blue star at hunting
    So
    (83,000 – 100,000)*1.11+20,000
    -16,200*1.11+20,000
    -17,982+20,200
    2,018 exp on hunting???

    Can u help me, maybe im wrong

    #16137
    Focus

    Lvl 108 USWest2
    Wolf
    Posts: 24

    Lets take example
    I have to beat skill cooking 0 blue star with 83,800 exp (lvl 30) and i have 1 blue star at hunting

    In this example, you’d need to get Hunting to level 33.5 or so for it to be higher than cooking.

    #16153
    Seryn

    Lvl 100 USEast2
    Skeleton
    Posts: 166

    Would you happen to know about the exp required for level 80 to 90 and level 90 to 100 too? That chart in wiki is incomplete

    I don’t unfortunately, with my use1 carns I was only able to measure up to 80.

    Thanks seryn, but i still confuse
    Lets take example
    I have to beat skill cooking 0 blue star with 83,800 exp (lvl 30) and i have 1 blue star at hunting
    So
    (83,000 – 100,000)*1.11+20,000
    -16,200*1.11+20,000
    -17,982+20,200
    2,018 exp on hunting???

    Can u help me, maybe im wrong

    No problem, it’s -20K per blue star so no blue stars in the skill you’re trying to beat is -0 instead of -100K.

    [(83,000 – 0)*1.11]+20,000
    [(83,000)*1.11]+20,000
    [92,463]+20,000
    112,463

    Which comes out to a little over level 33 for a skill with one blue star as Focus said. 🙂

    #16155
    xwindux

    Lvl 142 SEAsia
    Penguin
    Posts: 2

    Ok thanks focus and seryn 😁
    Btw r u have exp table for skill lv 1-100 per 1 lvl?
    Wiki only show 0-10,10-20,20-30,…70-80.

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