[Kaylovespie Lvl 2 LondonSkeletonPosts: 173]

Thanks for the heads up! This should be fixed by next patch ^_^

[Kaylovespie Lvl 2 LondonSkeletonPosts: 173]

Good idea, I told JVH and he seems to like the suggestion too ^_^ Maybe you’ll see it in a patch soon 🙂

[Kaylovespie Lvl 2 LondonSkeletonPosts: 173]

I’ve heard this from someone else as well. Sounds like an old bug that is back from the dead actually :O

Thanks for the heads up!

[Kaylovespie Lvl 2 LondonSkeletonPosts: 173]

Hi Guy!
Repair kits normally have 200 uses so this could be an item glitch if you know it’s been much more than that. There are a couple of other item bugs that I know JVH is working on. Thanks for the report!

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The seven day regeneration just happened so there’s a couple of stair issues JVH had to go in and fix. Hopefully he will have that fixed by next patch 🙂
Thanks for the heads up SPKrylos, and thank you Nusakan for confirming the bug!
Glad you guys are having fun exploring the new dungeon! ^_^

[Kaylovespie Lvl 2 LondonSkeletonPosts: 173]

Oh, I just responded to your PM 😛
Thanks again for the heads up!

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This is a great discussion to have 🙂

The current quest system does walk players through building floors and a house but I know JVH is working on improving that. He is changing some things in the upcoming patch I think but any ideas are appreciated.

I like the safe town idea. Usually there is always someone on who likes to help answer questions for new players so they could be directed to the town. Maybe it could be put in a corner or on a coast so you can just tell newbies a direction to walk, or put up signs to guide them. I think it would be cool if there was like a newbie compass or something.

As for the wiki and map I could sticky them on a forum post maybe. I’ll ask JVH if he could add the wiki to the help button too.

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Left (or ‘right’ now I guess) – In light of this thread and overwhelming evidence I wouldn’t call your posts a complaint anymore but more of an attempt to troll. I don’t mean to offend but I should have known when you said from the beginning you knew I wouldn’t be able to post any proof and that your authoritative sources for information were the suspended players themselves.. Either way I guess you have done the community a big favor in bringing all this information to light for everyone to see.

I’m going to close this now that your request for proof to justify the bans has been fulfilled.

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Hi Tangar! Nice to see you again 🙂 A lot has changed while you’ve been gone. Those FL members actually were no longer active in game, they stopped playing or post quit messages before the suspensions. Also as Apollo was pointing out the death penalty was changed so it’s not harsh anymore, you don’t lose much at all. It is actually like a jail in a sense now (fun idea btw!).

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Left,

The other players have jumped in to correct most of the misconceptions here. Thanks everyone. That revision screenshot is the first revision, during the month the game was released. We wouldn’t lie or manipulate this because it could be called out easily by long time players. You asked for proof, we have gone well out of our way to do that and we don’t plan to do this again. If proof of our one rule being broken, that they definitely knew about, is not enough for you then I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

JVH loses precious development hours when serious exploits are abused but not reported. The ‘withholding’ part is important because otherwise players like Sephi can get away with saying they told someone else to report it, who could say the same thing, and so on. He hates rules but that’s a necessary one.

Consider his perspective, and that he has never received a single complaint about admin intervention or corruption after 11 years in Mystera. Though after a wave of proof and complaints about certain players breaking our rule and having a serious affect on the game, he has to act. If it wasn’t suspension it would be complete level loss or character deletion. That would look bad too, but something had to be done and he felt that suspensions that were at most 3 weeks, AFTER the death penalty reduction and AFTER locks were put in place, (not to mention the players claiming they were quitting) was plenty fair.

Ceaser after being warned went on to try and circumvent his ban multiple times which extended his suspension. Sephi after being warned harassed me in PMs repeatedly with personal attacks while I have been nothing but professional to her. I finally had to add 1 week to her suspension to lessen the attacks. Again we have nothing to hide.

The funding argument doesn’t make sense since the timestamp on JVH investigating the complaints by confronting Ceaser proves this started before any of the changes in donations. If anything this proves that JVH is impartial regardless of funding which is consistent in his beliefs for the game not being ‘pay to win’.

Now that you voiced your opinion which you have a right to, I would ask that you respect ours even if you don’t agree with it, and let’s all move on from this. Thank you.

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Hi Valduk, you are a valued member of the community and will be missed. I agree you were nice to everyone, and FL was nice to you.

We actually looked into talk of an exploit in your screenshot. It did turn out to be normal game mechanics after all. An escape rope on a legal tile and then a built stairway. A similar panic happened with Tangar a few months back but it turned out to be normal. Robin sends in exploit reports fairly regularly as have some Frost Legion members which we appreciate.

[Kaylovespie Lvl 2 LondonSkeletonPosts: 173]

We appreciated your cooperation and how you’ve been one of the most civil FL players throughout this discussion.

Obviously the problem was withholding and abusing the exploit up until you were confronted by JVH after multiple complaints. Only then did you start cooperating.

The hammer update from July 28 made it clear that this was no longer a feature. The ability to harm other players with a hammer through disconnects should have been reported ASAP. Not kept secret and abused by multiple people in a tribe.

I know you are already aware of all this and tend to use the ‘ignorant of the law’ defense, which honestly I prefer to open hostility lol. I just wanted to make the details crystal clear so the public understands why these bans were put in place.

Just for the record, in these situations if any evidence can be produced to prove a ban was in error we will take it very seriously and update the community.

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Here is Nefer killing another player via exploit. Many tribe members are often online during these sort of FL attacks, but they often encourage each other to talk in external chat.

The list would go on and on but we just don’t have the time to scrub all the names and compile a huge list.

They keep up an image of only doing good in the community (which everyone can see) and then convince people that others they disagree with are using exploits or must be killed for some reason. They have infiltrated other tribes with alts and purposefully concocted reasons why the tribe should be destroyed. They have even planned to invite players to the game for the sole purpose of killing them after helping them to a certain level. Many former players can confirm this pattern, they help you when you are low level, and if they like you and you frequently agree with them and take their side then they will let you live. To this day many are still afraid of speaking out in game or on forums because they know what happens.

JVH as a game developer should never have to provide proof like this, he asks for his players trust. Those who know him know that he hates authoritarian admins and has a strict code of ethics for himself. He was harshest on admins in the past who showed any sign of corruption because he truly believes it does real damage to a community and he really does care about the players. After a wave of complaints and lies from certain FL members we are being made to look like the corrupt ones, while knowing the truth, this is painful to say the least. He actually likes several Frost Legion members and defends them.. but had to finally step in when the exploits became too much. I know some have seen the good sides of FL and naturally default to their side – I’m just asking the public to consider that we see such a different world than what is actually shown in game.

For transparency let me know if you have any other questions. I really didn’t want to have to post any of this.

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Here is Julius Ceaser killing 5 characters with the wall exploit. Notice how the player is killed by him while he is disconnected. Also notice how Sephi is whispering with knowledge of what is happening – even saying she is hoping he gets good experience.

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Here is Julius telling JVH he found out about the exploit from Naugrim (contradicts with what Sephi said).

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